Back in the early 70’s before commercial fisheries, there was
no peg fees but you may need to have joined a club of which there were many around the region. The main source of a decent match was the South West Winter League where the pools were 1/- (5p), 1/6 (7.5 p), 2/6 (12.5p), 5/- (25p) and 10/- (50p) all adding up to £1. The difference from nowadays is that the league took 15% levey on the pools for fees.Some said unfair as the pools were optional. The payout was based on percentages
e.g. 50%, 25%, 15% and 10%. This proved to a big payday if you won a match I know that Mike Jones had two good years picking up £5,000 each year which back then £5,000 could buy you a detached house today equivalent of £400,000 so £800,000 equivalent over two years, can't do that nowadays. Where did it all go Mike? Because of all the variables with
who went in which pool, working out the payout was a frightful affair
especially BC (Before Calculators) I’m sure some guessing went on. I have witnessed one organiser trying work the pools payout for a 240 peg match when three sheets to the wind very amusing but kept us in the Barge Inn for hours. No defaults
back then. The pools were collected by the match organiser. I remember one
match where I had custody of over £1,000 and found this off putting as to where
to keep it whilst fishing – it stayed in my tackle box which I refused to
leave, even for the call of nature. I remember someone losing the pools with us
all searching fields for hours until dark and the occasional car break-ins. Once the Winter League changed from overall weight to section points a section pool was introduced, at the same time league fees were introduced with the pools being 100% paid out.
Along came commercial fishing, about 30 years ago for me.
Some fisheries left the pools collection and payouts to one of the regulars, just
collecting the peg fee at the end of the match. Many fisheries still work this
way. The pools were normally a Main and
Section. These pools varied from £10 to £15. Then some bright spark of an
Angler decided that a “Super Pool” would help boost the payout and the match
organiser or his Gimp would go around with a scrap of paper asking if anyone
wanted to enter (why does Dave “The Drain” Lewis spring to mind). At no time
was this intended or has ever been a WTA pool. The match organiser would at the
start announce how much was collect in all the pools and how it would be paid
out to prevent dissent later. The Super Pool (SP) has always been paid out as
near as possible to mimic the main pools e.g. pay three in main then try and pay
three in SP, but again depended on numbers entering the SP. A check must always
be made to ensure the winners were in fact in the SP (I have known organisers accidentally
pay a SP in error).
The important thing to remember the Pools belong to the
anglers fishing and not the fishery management or owner so organisers should
always gain consensus of participating anglers as to the pools and the payout
of said pools.
Currently expect to pay £20 around the country. The pools
are broken down in various ways with some being optional. Commercial fishery Managers
recognise their livelihood depends on getting as many anglers peg fees as
possible so the need to cater for all pockets and standards of angling and
getting that important consensus. One elderly angler said to me recently at the
Windmill Fishery that he looked on the pools as an expensive day ticket as he
couldn’t compete with the better anglers, but felt it value for money because of
the camaraderie, important to remember these anglers.
There is some thought that higher pools attract more and
better anglers. In the South West this has been tested. Paul Greenwood then
Fishery Manager at Viaduct increased the cost of the Wednesday Opens to £25. At
around the same John Bradford aka The Gimp started a Thursday cost cutter at
Viaduct which was intended for the over 55’s. Well the Wednesday Open
attendances fell with the cost cutter attendances rising in popularity to 40 or
more on a good day and remains popular today, the Gimp still moans that his
match was shanghaied which is now open to all comers.
It has become traditional in the South West to have a Silver
Fish payout which is paid out of the main pool and is usually paid by default.
Some say this should not be defaulted; for example The Sedges Fishery pays out
both if you win both. I can see both arguments, but side with default as I
think this can benefit the lesser angler and spreads the money further. The
Silver pool payout is usually about the same value as third place. The value
can be more than a third spot payout but should never be the same as this
avoids arguments as to who gets what when the Silvers winner is also third.
Viaduct has got its Thursday cost cutter right with peg fee
plus £6 pools. This comes from having an owner who is a top match angler.
The total cost of pools should be £20 negating the need for cash
change. Typically:
£6 peg fee
£8 main pool
£5 Optional Super Pool. This is not a Winner Take All and
should mirror main pool payout – subject to numbers that enter)
£1 Golden peg Optional. I am not a great fan of this one for
open matches because regulars can pay in for weeks and a one time attendee wins
it. But if a fishery runs it I would make the change that the payout for
winning the match from the designated peg is £100 maximum and if the Silvers is
won from the peg instead then a maximum payout of £50 i.e. 50% of Golden peg
money.
The main pools payout should be spread out with a typical 20
pegger where all anglers had paid all pools. Try and keep the highest payout to
around £100 maximum.
Main Pool: £160
1st £50
2nd £40
3rd £30
Silvers:
1st £25
2nd £15
Super Pool: £100
1st £40
2nd £35
3rd £25
The pools payout I quite favour is those created Colin Golding for the Over 55's at Huntstrete. Currently £4 peg fee and £8 pools with the payout equal for both Silvers and overall and each framers get £25. So on a typical pay-out the top four would each receive £25 as would the top four Silvers weights. I would like to see this be applied to other cost cutters. Simple to manage and administer.
The pools payout I quite favour is those created Colin Golding for the Over 55's at Huntstrete. Currently £4 peg fee and £8 pools with the payout equal for both Silvers and overall and each framers get £25. So on a typical pay-out the top four would each receive £25 as would the top four Silvers weights. I would like to see this be applied to other cost cutters. Simple to manage and administer.
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Minor error in the BAA over 55s payout, when more than 20 fish the winner in both overall and silvers gets £30. Being a regular benefactor can I assume the next time you win there will be£5 in the drinks kitty.
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